I fuck wit this channel. People that say Teddy Riley was the first to blend Hip Hop and R&B just be saying some shit, repeating myths. These myths erase the true history of Hip Hop. The same way this Jamaican myth is erasing James Brown, Rudy Ray Moore, Muhammad Ali, and hundreds of years of black American history and culture.
The Teddy Riley New Jack myth is one of the dumbest myths of Hip Hop considering Hip Hop was literally born out of R&B, not to mention this era/subgenre right here. We need to start chronicling the subgenres of Hip Hop the same way that Dunn cat did for Heavy Metal. They got they shit structured, even though they shit is really our shit but that's besides the point. Teddy Riley wasn't the first to come up with the concept of blending R&B and Hip Hop, but he came up with his own New Jack style with it. Some might even debate that.
Being from St. Louis music is very important to me, so when I first heard Itchin' For A Scratch and Forgive Me Girl I was hooked on the Force MDs. I agree one of the most underrated groups ever, those harmonies were so hypnotic it was amazing. Still a fan
I listened to the Supreme Team show often and they were at the station a lot. And I never heard the Force MCs give a shoutout to the Supreme Team for their support. Not even on the back of the album. Ironically it would be other 5%ers (Wu) that would help make them relevant again. RIP Mercury
Hey great video ! You didn't mentioned they featured on '96 "Ironman" Ghostface album, even tough you played "Daytona 500" instrumental at the end .) A whole generation discovered them trough Wu Tang
Man you continually amaze me with the archive of tapes. I was too young to go out and obtain mix tapes in this erra. So I have a great appreciation. I remember hearing this kind of stuff on WHBI when I could catch it.
The first time I heard of the Force MC's , we ran into them in the Bronx. This crew that I used to hang out with over on Tinton Ave were doing an outside jam in the basketball court in their area, and these dudes happen to be out there and asked if they could get on , saying they were from Staten Island. In fact what really stood out was that at the time DJ Dr.Rock had a broken arm, but they talked to the crew and ended up rocking for a few minutes and it blew us all away. How many DJ's can cut with a broken arm?( and as a DJ myself I was impressed – dude was NICE!). They had skills on the mic and had some dope routines that they threw down. This was long before the "MD's" – They did their "F-Troop" routine and a couple of others . I know that when they left we were all blown away and knew we had to step our game up. I think the crew from Tinton was called the Devastating Force ( I hung out with the 2 brothers Doug and Ed in school at Lehman H.S). JayQuan killed it again with this one. Even the flyers. I remember most of them. That Stevenson H.S one with "Ikey C" for sure. I did some flyers for Ikey for some shows his crew "The Cosmic Force" were doing with the Cold Crush Bros. Hip Hop has a seriously interesting history and it's really nice to hear it being told Authentically.
Force mc's was one of my favorite crews in the early 80's…the total package..singing, rapping & dancing. I wish you had my favorite promo they did on the W.F.S.T.S. with C…(they did it over get up and dance). I miss those cats & those days.
I'm 48 from upstate NY, and have a vague memory of 1984 and 85…when the Force MDs was the acceptable R&B to wind the party down (possibly even slowdance with a female due to the ambiance of the slow jams). Parties dominated by rap music
Yo, you're helping emcees so much! This is necessary. People ask where I get my quick flow. You help me further appreciate hip-hop and it's opened up so many flows and so much vocabulary. Thank you so much! (Skill comes with knowledge and love for the art!)
I must admit I bought their records, just because I found them on sale back in the day (Europe) I bought anything labeled "Tommy Boy". However I was disappointed, expected electro but got mainstream pop/funk instead. Now that confused me, but I understand Tommy Boy, they wanted to sell records and wanted to reach the common record buyer. As always, top edutainment, packed with facts. Pure joy watching your videos!
Went to these guys at the Apollo along with Lelo Thomas, and Alexander O'Neal. They rocked it so hard that when O'Neal got on stage after a few songs that he sang people started walking out The force was 4real.
So glad i knew this brothers since I was young. My brother Staten Island Legend DJ Hines gave me the knowledge. Too bad lots of people here on the island dont know hip hop history before wu tang. True pioneers. also dj Rock was ahead of the game as far as scratching DJ's were concerned. He is the best scratch DJ in his era on staten island
Another great lesson by Jayquan the Foundation!! I am going to call you for now on Mr. Jayquan , PHD.!! This brought back some good times. Thank you thank you ty P.s. ….add a addendum to this lesson. The intro to Ghostface Killah Daytona 500 when the Force MD’s sung the into. Dope. Lol
Man 8 minutes in and I had to pause this to say thank you JayQuan my brotha for yet another beautiful history lesson on another legendary group. I grew on the Force MD's (Itchin For a Scratch, Take Your Love Back, Auld Lang Syne, Touch & Go, Tender Love) and I consider myself a Hip-Hop baby and a historian too, but you come with the untold history beyond the history we know or can find on Google. So thank you again and now I'm about to relax and enjoy this one. #HistoryClass #JewelsAndGems
I fuck wit this channel. People that say Teddy Riley was the first to blend Hip Hop and R&B just be saying some shit, repeating myths. These myths erase the true history of Hip Hop. The same way this Jamaican myth is erasing James Brown, Rudy Ray Moore, Muhammad Ali, and hundreds of years of black American history and culture.
The Teddy Riley New Jack myth is one of the dumbest myths of Hip Hop considering Hip Hop was literally born out of R&B, not to mention this era/subgenre right here. We need to start chronicling the subgenres of Hip Hop the same way that Dunn cat did for Heavy Metal. They got they shit structured, even though they shit is really our shit but that's besides the point. Teddy Riley wasn't the first to come up with the concept of blending R&B and Hip Hop, but he came up with his own New Jack style with it. Some might even debate that.
Being from St. Louis music is very important to me, so when I first heard Itchin' For A Scratch and Forgive Me Girl I was hooked on the Force MDs. I agree one of the most underrated groups ever, those harmonies were so hypnotic it was amazing. Still a fan
I love it
Mcees talk all the trash u want. I bet force mds sold more than ur career on a bad day. Talk trash bout that.
I listened to the Supreme Team show often and they were at the station a lot. And I never heard the Force MCs give a shoutout to the Supreme Team for their support. Not even on the back of the album. Ironically it would be other 5%ers (Wu) that would help make them relevant again. RIP Mercury
Hey great video !
You didn't mentioned they featured on '96 "Ironman" Ghostface album, even tough you played "Daytona 500" instrumental at the end .)
A whole generation discovered them trough Wu Tang
R.i.p
Wow I remember meeting Stevie D on Staten Island ferry and how he let me spit a rhyme for him and he told me shorty you could rap keep doing it.
The fly 4 mcs, 2 of my cousins were in that group
One of my favorite groups if all time,along with the Spinners, SALUTE! to the Mighty FORCE MD'S, WORD,Love y'all.
That voice affect was like a sonic strobe effect.
Man you continually amaze me with the archive of tapes. I was too young to go out and obtain mix tapes in this erra. So I have a great appreciation. I remember hearing this kind of stuff on WHBI when I could catch it.
My most favorite ❤️ song in the world, Tender Love
The first time I heard of the Force MC's , we ran into them in the Bronx. This crew that I used to hang out with over on Tinton Ave were doing an outside jam in the basketball court in their area, and these dudes happen to be out there and asked if they could get on , saying they were from Staten Island. In fact what really stood out was that at the time DJ Dr.Rock had a broken arm, but they talked to the crew and ended up rocking for a few minutes and it blew us all away. How many DJ's can cut with a broken arm?( and as a DJ myself I was impressed – dude was NICE!). They had skills on the mic and had some dope routines that they threw down. This was long before the "MD's" – They did their "F-Troop" routine and a couple of others . I know that when they left we were all blown away and knew we had to step our game up. I think the crew from Tinton was called the Devastating Force ( I hung out with the 2 brothers Doug and Ed in school at Lehman H.S). JayQuan killed it again with this one. Even the flyers. I remember most of them. That Stevenson H.S one with "Ikey C" for sure. I did some flyers for Ikey for some shows his crew "The Cosmic Force" were doing with the Cold Crush Bros. Hip Hop has a seriously interesting history and it's really nice to hear it being told Authentically.
Whoooooa!man this is as dope as it gets i cant come down from a hiphop high like this!!!!!
@1:15:10 Love is a House another one.
@1:00:50 Here I Go Again, another CLASSIC!!!
@53:10 Tears is a bonafide CLASSIC!!!
Force mc's was one of my favorite crews in the early 80's…the total package..singing, rapping & dancing. I wish you had my favorite promo they did on the W.F.S.T.S. with C…(they did it over get up and dance). I miss those cats & those days.
Very very underrated group…waaaaaay ahead of their time
I'm 48 from upstate NY, and have a vague memory of 1984 and 85…when the Force MDs was the acceptable R&B to wind the party down (possibly even slowdance with a female due to the ambiance of the slow jams). Parties dominated by rap music
Force MCs was nice but they really only known for singing on record. Really underated MC group to me one of the best.
Dr rock and dr shock were 2 different djs
Yo, you're helping emcees so much! This is necessary. People ask where I get my quick flow. You help me further appreciate hip-hop and it's opened up so many flows and so much vocabulary. Thank you so much! (Skill comes with knowledge and love for the art!)
Yo they was KILLIN NGGZ!!! GOT" DAMN
Been waiting for this… Thank you
I must admit I bought their records, just because I found them on sale back in the day (Europe) I bought anything labeled "Tommy Boy". However I was disappointed, expected electro but got mainstream pop/funk instead. Now that confused me, but I understand Tommy Boy, they wanted to sell records and wanted to reach the common record buyer. As always, top edutainment, packed with facts. Pure joy watching your videos!
Wow…after hearing their catalog I can TOTALLY see how New Edition would've been shook by these boys. Thanks, Jay for another LIFE lesson!
Went to these guys at the Apollo along with Lelo Thomas, and Alexander O'Neal. They rocked it so hard that when O'Neal got on stage after a few songs that he sang people started walking out
The force was 4real.
Jay your just tooooooo good!
So glad i knew this brothers since I was young. My brother Staten Island Legend DJ Hines gave me the knowledge. Too bad lots of people here on the island dont know hip hop history before wu tang. True pioneers. also dj Rock was ahead of the game as far as scratching DJ's were concerned. He is the best scratch DJ in his era on staten island
Another Great lesson! Daytona 500 1996, only REAL HIP HOP Heads know.!
In 1985 I was in the 3rd grade. My older cousin had Here I Go Again in heavy rotation whenever he was babysitting – lol. In Ohio.
Now when I hear the song Old School by Tupac I think of The Foundation….but I don't think he mentioned the Force MD's.
cray i was just was talking about this….. now this video
Another great lesson by Jayquan the Foundation!! I am going to call you for now on Mr. Jayquan , PHD.!! This brought back some good times. Thank you thank you ty
P.s. ….add a addendum to this lesson. The intro to Ghostface Killah Daytona 500 when the Force MD’s sung the into. Dope. Lol
Man 8 minutes in and I had to pause this to say thank you JayQuan my brotha for yet another beautiful history lesson on another legendary group. I grew on the Force MD's (Itchin For a Scratch, Take Your Love Back, Auld Lang Syne, Touch & Go, Tender Love) and I consider myself a Hip-Hop baby and a historian too, but you come with the untold history beyond the history we know or can find on Google. So thank you again and now I'm about to relax and enjoy this one. #HistoryClass
#JewelsAndGems
They did an excellent remake of The Intruders song I Wanna Know Your Name with Trisco Pearson on the lead vocals. And I love their song Walking on Air